The former First Lady, now 61, sat down with Gabrielle Union and Dwyane Wade to discuss raising children, family roles, and sibling dynamics. When the conversation turned to her daughters, Malia, 26, and Sasha, 24, Michelle revealed that while Barack found parenting one daughter straightforward, the other was challenging.

Michelle Obama shared insight into husband Barack Obama’s bond with daughters Malia, 27, and Sasha, 23—including why the former president called their youngest “difficult.”